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The August 2000 email:
Remarks to RingMasters

In early August 2000, Yahoo! began sending an email to ringmasters and webring members.

The email was "signed" by the Webring Team.

For that reason, some ringmasters, including myself, began to write our members to tell what we know about all of this and to offer both some calming words and a suggestion.

I subsequently began writing the ringmasters of all the webrings to which I belong.

This page presents the email that I sent to the ringmasters of webrings to which I belong.

This article is part of the Wazillion Navbars Project: a project to explore and write about the Yahoo! WebRing system. For a list of these articles click here or see the section menu at the bottom of this page.

Note that the Yahoo! WebRing system no longer exists. It has been spun off to the independent WebRing.com system. The Wazillion Navbars Project has been closed. These pages are thus, no longer accurate and do not apply to the new WebRing.com system. Instead, these pages are being maintained for a "historical record".

For current information on the WebRing.com system, see my webring subsection about the WebRing.com system.

 

Saturday, 12.Aug.2000

I am writing you because I am a member of your Webring:
{insert Webring name here}.

On Saturday, August 5, Yahoo! began sending out emails to all ring members and all ring managers all across the world. (If you have not received this email, there is a reference to a web copy at the bottom of this email.)

That email describes some changes coming to the Webring system and encourages everyone to immediately run out and get a Yahoo! ID.

In the Yahoo! Club, WebringNews, the first posting about this email popped in at 7:38 AM on Saturday (posting number 1802 from PoetryWebring). [1]

. This is the WebRing.com system logo as of Oct.2006. This logo is shown ONLY to illustrate the logo for purposes of this article. The appearance of this logo in this article does not imply any endorsement or affiliation of any kind between this site or the author and the WebRing.com system.
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This is the new logo for the WebRing.com system, implemented in their changes of Oct.2006. It distinguishes this webring system from the other systems like Ringlink, RingSurf and Bravenet. See also my articles: WebRing.com Logos and Is Webring a Trademark?

In the days that followed, hundreds of posts about this topic appeared in that forum (about 200 by Wednesday morning). In addition ringmasters also posted about this topic to the RingManager email list and the old Webring/StarSeed RingMaster email list.

If you are a member of any of these forums, then this email is redundant and I apologize for it.

But, if you are NOT a member of any of these forums, then you may not be aware of the energetic and passionate discussions that have taken place in the past few days.

While it will, at some time in the future, almost certainly be necessary to obtain a Yahoo! ID, either to be a ringmaster or to join a ring, it is NOT currently necessary.

Webring has not yet disclosed even a prototype of the new navigation that will require a Yahoo! ID. Neither has it disclosed a time table when it might be implemented.

And, even when it is implemented, there are some preliminary assurances that a transition period of as long as 18 months may be permitted before Yahoo! IDs are absolutely required.

Getting a Yahoo! ID (today) does not assist anyone (today) with any aspect of the Webring system. It does not (today) improve service or performance or options or provide any other identifiable Webring benefits.

The email from Webring.org seems to me to be a way of encouraging everyone to get a Yahoo! ID before it is necessary and before we know all the details.

There are many details we do not know.

For example, it appears that multiple Yahoo! IDs may be required in certain circumstances. This might include members with multiple sites, as well as members with too many rings to fit on one page.

Also, the personal privacy implications of using Yahoo! IDs for Webrings have not yet been fully explored in the discussions nor explained by Yahoo!. These personal privacy implications may influence how you obtain your Yahoo! IDs, what information you reveal when you obtain them, how many you obtain and how you use them to manage your Webrings.

Because the details are still very fuzzy and because all the issues have not been explored, the RingMaster Community can neither explain all the options nor make intelligent recommendations.

For all of these reasons, many ringmasters are strongly encouraging the members of their rings NOT to obtain a Yahoo! ID for Webrings until sometime in the future when the details are disclosed, the options are explained and the ringmasters can make intelligent recommendations on how to proceed.

I have sent such a letter to the members of all of my rings. (I include a link to that letter, as well as similar letters from other ringmasters below.)

Because I am not only a ringmaster but am also a member of YOUR ring, I wanted you to know about all these issues.

I wanted to be sure you are aware of the discussion of these issues in the various ringmaster forums that are available.

I wanted to encourage you to write the members of your ring to tell them not to worry.

And, finally, I wanted to encourage you to write the members of your ring to reassure them that it is not necessary to obtain a Yahoo! ID for Webrings yet.

I have listed additional resources for you below:

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Resources

Yahoo Clubs WebringNews
  The closest thing to an active official Webring forum
  Hosted on Yahoo (which owns Webring.org)
  Messages can be "viewed" without joining
  If you join, messages can be sent to the address of your choice
  Posting requires joining
  Posting can only occur on the web
   http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/webringnews
  First posting about the Webring August email is number 1802

The Ring Managers mailing list
  An "unofficial", independent mailing list
  Runs on EGroups (which is now owned by Yahoo!)
  To subscribe send a blank message to:
    mailto:ringmgr-subscribe@EGroups.com
        Or go to
    http://www.EGroups.com/lists/ringmgr

The RingMasters mailing list
  An "official" RingMasters discussion list
  Affiliated with Webring.org
  Currently the least active of the forums
  To subscribe
    send email to mailto:majordomo@webring.org
    type "subscribe ringmasters-l Youremail" in the message body

James S. Huggins' Letter to His Ring Members
  http://www.jamesshuggins.com/h/rng1/why!_org_01.htm

Phil Preen's Letter to His Ring Members
  http://homepages.go.com/~phil_the/morris/yahoo-webring.html

RachelleNet Letter to Ring Members
  http://members.home.com/rachellenet/yaphoo.html

Posting of the Webring email on James S. Huggins' Refrigerator Door
  http://www.jamesshuggins.com/h/rng1/why!_org_02.htm

Page on EGroups Regarding the EGroups/Yahoo! Integration
  http://www.egroups.com/local/news.html
  NB: this is not technically related to the Webring integration.
  However, it provides a view of another Yahoo! integration
  that is slightly ahead of the Webring integration.

EGroups/Yahoo! Merger Discussion Group
  http://www.egroups.com/group/merger
  Very active.
  Interestingly enough contains many postings about the need for
  and issues of a Yahoo! ID.
  Also contains some long threads about
  Yahoo! Terms of Service and copyright issues.

The RingMakers Site
  http://music.acmecity.com/flute/3/ringmakers/
  Created by "Metaed", this site advocates organizing a
  broadbased user group to represent the ringmaster interests
  to Webring, Yahoo! and other members of the community


Notes

1. The Webring News club was subsequently deleted, in part, because of the incredibly large quantity of postings highly critical of Yahoo! and their actions in this change. [back]

 
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 Webring News and Announcements

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WebRing.com Changes Big Time ---  It was October 2001 that WebRing.com came into existence following the end of Yahoo! Webring. Now, 5 years later, WebRing.com is changing again. Moving from primarily a free service to primarily a paid service, the system is undergoing massive change. Stay tuned.

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This is the logo for the Ringlink system. This logo is shown ONLY to illustrate the logo for purposes of this article. The appearance of this logo in this article does not imply any endorsement or affiliation of any kind between this site or the author and the Ringlink system.  

Ringlink Activity  ---  While Ringlink has not released a new version since Version 3.2 on 21.Feb.2005, the system seems to be getting a lot of activity. Many people are discovering this great webring system and moving their webrings here. If you don't know about Ringlink, definitely check out this great webring system. I personally recommend it.

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This is the logo for the World of Webrings Community. This logo is shown ONLY to illustrate the logo for purposes of this article. The appearance of this logo in this article does not imply any endorsement or affiliation of any kind between this site or the author and the World of Webrings Community.  

WoW  ---  The World of Webrings features the World of Webrings discussion list. It offers a forum for both webring owners (ringmasters) and webring members to discuss the latest hot topics about all webrings, including WebRing.com, Ringlink , Alt-Webring, RingSurf, Bravenet and others. If you belong to any webring in any webring service, you should join this list.

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This is the logo for the RingSurf system. This logo is shown ONLY to illustrate the logo for purposes of this article. The appearance of this logo in this article does not imply any endorsement or affiliation of any kind between this site or the author and the RingSurf system.  

RingSurf Passes 3 Year Anniversary  ---  It was 3 years ago, on 16.Aug.2003 when the WoW list list noted that RingSurf's domain name registration had changed. Then the new owner came forward. A RingSurf Feature List was developed and debated. Then, on Thanksgiving day, 27.Nov.2003 the new owner posted on the WoW list that the new RingSurf is up! If you haven't checked it out lately, see what has happened in the last three years.

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James S. Huggins is interviewed and quoted in a new Salon.com article entitled: The Strange Saga of Yahoo and Webring (05.Dec.2001)  

Article About Webrings  ---  Check out this excellent Salon.com article about the history of Yahoo! and WebRing.com: The Strange Saga of Yahoo and Webring . For some, it will bring back memories. For others, it will explain the history. Now, I wonder if they will update it to talk about the latest WebRing.com changes.

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The Wazillion Navbars Project

WNP Table of Contents 
 
The August 2000 email: Text 
 
  Project Overview 
 
 The August 2000 email: Advice 
 
  Yahoo! WebRing Lite 
 
  The August 2000 email: Remarks 
 
  The Jan 2001 Changes 
 
  Webring System Hosts 
 
  Descriptions 
 
  Forums and email Lists 
 
  Validation 
 
  Comments Across the Net 
 
  JavaScript 
 
 Mirrors of My Wazillion Stack  
 
  Links and Pages 
 
 Other Large Navbar Stacks  
 
  Glossary 
 
 Letters from RingMasters  
 
  Problem: Split Stack 
 
  Webrings That Moved or Closed  
 
  Problem: Navbar Graphic 
 
  Media Articles 
 
  Personal/Unofficial List of Problems 
 
  Other Yahoo! Integration  
 
  Why You Should Not Delete 
 
  Other Yahoo! Issue Sites  
 
  Why You Can't See The Navbar? 
 
  My Yahoo! WebRing Memberships 
 
  Is "Webring" a Trademark? 
 
  Help With Yahoo! WebRing  
 
  The January 1999 email: Text 
 
 

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Webring Sections and Subsections

The Webring Section is a large section of my website. I have divided it into four major "subsections".

  • General Information
  • The WebRing.com System
  • Webrings I Own and Belong To
  • The Wazillion Navbars Project

each "subsection" has it's own special "logo".

As you travel in the various subsections you will find, near the bottom of each page, links to pages within that subsection and also links to the other subsections. To go to any subsection, just click on the "logo" or on the text link for that subsection.

Webrings - - - A chainmail web of rings - - - This graphic identifies pages of my website about webrings in general - - - This graphic is by Dylon White. Graphic copyright 2001 by Dylon Whyte of artofchainmail.com and James S. Huggins

Webrings: General Information

This subsection includes general information about webrings. Webrings can be hosted by a variety of different services. This section deals with the overall concepts and issues, not with any one particular "brand" of webring.

It includes my Webring FAQ, links to articles about webrings, and general help information. Click here or on the graphic.

The WebRing.com System - - - An interlocking stack of gold rings symbolizes the system - - - This graphic identifies pages of my website about the Webring.com System - - - Original image copyright Jeff McIntosh - - - Licensed through iStockphoto.com

The WebRing.com System

This subsection includes specific information about the WebRing.com system.

While not the only webring system on the net, it is the best known and the most used. I own many webrings in this system and belong to many webrings in this system. (I also own and belong to many webrings in other systems as well.) Click here or on the graphic.

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Webrings I Own and Belong To

This subsection shows all the webrings I own and links to all the webrings to which I belong. This includes webrings in Ringlink, RingSurf, Bravenet and the WebRing.com system as well.

If you are looking to join one of my webrings, this is a good place to start. If you wonder about the webrings I belong to, this is the place to go. Click here or on the graphic.

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